“My great grandmother x4 lived and died in Providence Place, Woolwich Road, Greenwich in 1843. Try as I may, I cannot determine where this Providence Place address is/was and would be very grateful if you were able to pinpoint it for me on today’s ‘ landscape.”
The Phantom replies:
I have no idea why Providence Place was so named – it sounds rather biblically based, but for your great, great great great grandma (is that enough greats?) to have died there it would have been created before the utterly mammoth surge in piousness. I can show you exactly where it was, though, courtesy of the exceptional project Ideal Homes – Suburbia In Focus which, if ever you’re having a dull moment, is worth perusing for the maps and photos alone.
This is a detail from the map of East Greenwich c.1870 - Providence Place runs parallel to Woolwich Road, about half way up the map, opposite what was then the Union Workhouse (it became Greenwich District Hospital, before becoming what it is today – a giant hole in the ground, sapping the area of energy and heart.) I’ve marked Providence Place in a rather fetching pale blue, but since it falls off the edge of the page, I don’t know how long it was.
I also don’t know when it died. I had assumed that it was bombed to buggery in the War, but a map of 1938, made before the War, seems to have the estate already superimposed over the road.
I find myself wondering what the street would have looked like. I mean – all the streets around there now are late Victorian/Edwardian or younger; we don’t have anything at all that was older than that. Was it cottages? Presumably so – though I can’t imagine they were particularly bucolic, given they were in East Greenwich rather than West. I don’t even tend to think there was much at all there – it was the time of Westcombe Farm, further down towards Woolwich, and in my mind this was all fields, though looking at the map there’s a fair old web of streets even then. I assume they were servicing the various wharves.
But back to your original question. You asked where it would be on a modern map. I’m reckoning that it runs somewhere between what’s left of Hatcliffe Street and Mr Fast Fry, the other side of Glenister Green:
And that’s all I know/can surmise about Providence Place. Perhaps someone else can add some info for you.
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