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Friday, 24 October 2008

Fat Boy's Diner

Continuing in my not-really-in-Greenwich-but well-worth-a try series, Fat Boy's Diner could actually be in the American Mid-West, the amount of trouble it takes to get to, despite the fact that it's only a couple of hundred metres from The O2 as the crow flies. As the Phantom trudges, it's a good three-quarters of an hour, but the kitsch-value alone makes the trip worthwhile.

There's no information about the history of how this 1940s American diner, complete with aluminium cladding, Formica tables, slightly ageing red vinyl bench seats and twirly bar stools at the counter actually made it over to Blighty, but you know, I'm sure I remember it around Liverpool Street in the late 1980s (Am I mistaken? Or was that a different Fat Boy's Diner? Maybe they're all over the place - two-a-penny - and I just haven't noticed them...)

Maybe it got too pricey to keep a what is essentially a posh caravan selling burgers in the City, but it's found its spiritual home now, nestled among dead lighthouses, weird installations and container studios of Trinity Buoy Wharf, beloved by the artists who live there and their visitors alike.
How to describe it? Well - just think of practically any Hollywood movie that has pretensions to nostalgia and you've got it. Plastic sauce bottles (sadly not in the shape of tomatoes or hot dogs but you can't have everything) Venetian blinds that make me think of that sinister scene in Goodfellas where Robert de Niro meets Ray Liotta 'with intent' (yeah, yeah, that wasn't a trailer, but it was still damn creepy) black and white tiles and tabletop juke boxes. I once found a job lot of over 70 of those babies for just under thirty quid each, but I couldn't even lift one of them, let alone get it in my suitcase, chiz.
Outside, they've plonked a few tables and some Yuccas. I don't recommend them just at the moment, but they're lovely in summer.
I'd say, to be absolutely honest, that the setting and the fabulous, fabulous decor are the real reasons to make a pilgrimage to this place. The food is predictable - burgers, hot dogs, fries (not chips, obviously) with shakes and Cokes, followed by pies and sundaes. And so it should be - it would be just wrong to eat anything else in such a venue. As it goes, it's well-cooked and cheerfully served. But don't expect anything more than that. It's fun food, not gourmet, like most caffs, really.

The joy is in just being able to sit in a backwater in East London and pretend you're in The Last Picture Show or Back to the Future or American Graffiti (even if their diners aren't caravans either) Or maybe one of those really terrifying Films Noirs that aren't set in the night or the city, but which usually involve deranged hitchhikers and escaped criminals kidnapping travelling salesmen in the scorching desert sun. Or maybe Sliding Doors, which was apparently actually filmed there, not that I remember anything about that movie save that the film makers clearly thought it was possible for John Hannah to run from the Albert Bridge to the City, via what looked suspiciously like Battersea, in ten minutes, and that no one would notice that the Waterloo-City Line doesn't go to Upminster...
OK, so here's the snag. Getting there. Normally, you're going to have to either drive round via the Blackwall Tunnel or get a DLR to East India Dock from which it takes about 15 minutes to walk.
Every once in a while, on high days and holidays, Thames Clippers take pity on us and run a free shuttle boat from the 02 to Trinity Buoy Wharf. Keep an eye out for such events here and take advantage of them, because it will mean that everything else is open as well - artists' studios, installations, etc. And the first weekend of every month, the very-odd-indeed tinging and bonging sound installation Longplayer by Jem Finer gives you the excuse to get inside the historic lighthouse. But that's for another day...

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9 Comments:

Blogger Benedict said...

I love the "idea" of this place, the styling,(I think Fat Boy's is a franchised chain in the States) the location fantastic, its just,,,,the food was really lousy we I went, which was a few years ago, admittedly I have been spoilt from eating in New York diners.But I do love it nontheless, it looks so out of place it looks right if you see what I mean, amongst all the weird and wonderful stuff of Trinity Bouy Wharf.
(TGP have we gone back to ye old comment system again? I am getting very confused.)

24 October 2008 09:21  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

Comments schmomments. Who can tell what Blogger will do on any chosen day?

24 October 2008 09:27  
Anonymous Wolfe said...

That Fat Boys started it's London life in Maiden Lane, just south of Covent Garden, which is where - I think - the scenes for "Sliding Doors" were shot....a fun movie although cursed with a supersmug performance from the ever-irritating John Hannah which always has me reaching for a weapon and the nearest tall building.

I loved it in Covent Garden and Liverpool Street....very glad to hear it's still cooking. I shall be checking it after my swim and shower this weekend......

24 October 2008 12:39  
Blogger Benedict said...

All Fat Boy's patrons are asked to keep their trunks on while eating hot dogs and chillie fries!

24 October 2008 13:31  
Anonymous Rod said...

There was a small chain of them at one time, and Wolfe is right, there certainly was one in Maiden Lane, in fierce competition with Rules, no doubt :-}
I'm relying on my memory now, but I'm fairly sure that the chain (don't know if it's a franchise in the States, could be) was started by two catering entrepreneurs, Mark Yates and Theo Kyriarkou (who subsequently went on to found Livebait and The Real Greek) who saw an advert in a trade magazine for some authentic American mobile diners for sale, and thought "Why not?"
They've moved several times over the years.

24 October 2008 20:59  
Anonymous Salv said...

The Fatboys at Trinity Buoy Wharf is the one that was in Bishopsgate, but is not the one that was in Maiden Lane. The Bishopsgate diner moved in to Spitalfields market when that block between Spital Square and Brushfield Street was redeveloped, then was moved again when the market was redeveloped. I'm not sure exactly when it ended up at Trinity Buoy Wharf. The scene in Sliding Doors was filmed while it was still in Bishopsgate - you can see traffic moving in both directions through the windows.

The diner that was in Maiden Lane has now reverted to its original name of The Riverview Diner, and can be found at the Bybrook Barn garden centre in Ashford, Kent.
http://www.bybrook-barn.co.uk/pages/franchises-within-the-garden-centre/riverview-diner.php
This diner was the first of the Fatboy's diners in London and was originally placed in Camden Lock market in about 1990 or '91 while the Maiden Lane site was prepared.

There was a third Fatboy's next to Golders Green tube station - this was the biggest of the three and had fantastic pink vitrolite panels on the exterior and huge, plush booths. I don't know where this one is now, but it was my favourite of the three.

17 June 2009 19:40  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This diner was the former Georgetown Diner aka Randy's Roast Beef aka Fat Boy's Diner. And was located in Massachusetts. It was built by the Worcester Lunch Car Company (#849) Worcester, Massachusetts. In 1982 my father-in-law purchased it with the intent of moving it to Middleton MA but it never happened. It was placed in storage at my farm from 1982- 1989. Mr. John Keith bought the diner in 1989 and restored it in New Hampshire. He tried to sell it in Los Angeles but eventually sold it to Trevor Gulliver in London to be part of the Fat Boy's Chain.

26 June 2009 17:05  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

Fascinating - thank you Anonymous...

29 June 2009 11:31  
Anonymous one of the 86ed said...

All the Diners were bought and brought to the UK (early 90s)by Mark Yates. The guy who originally started Break For The Border(s) back in the 80s. He told me that he saw an add in a trade magazine 'Diner For Sale' and had to phone the US to ask what a Diner actually was, went over and had a look then made an offer to pay for the Riverview and the infatuation was set. He started with the Maiden Lane site, the Birmingham (Broad Street) site burned down before Christmas 93' and local competition-foul play wasn't exactly ruled out by those affected. Focus was then set for the remaining sites until Mark thought the'getting was good'to get out and Trevor Gulliver put it into receivership to get a quick buck' and everyone got the old 'heave-ho' although I suspect he would dispute it. I know first hand cause I was there. I am just glad that they are being used for what they are and not collecting cobwebs in some storage unit. Love Charlie

10 November 2009 00:07  

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