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Saturday, 27 September 2008

More Wedding Bells


I had hoped never to have to write about wedding venues again, but Lorna's still not convinced by the Phantom Shindigs page, and I can sort of see what she means. Besides, it does give me the excuse to use this pic I took last week of a jolly mode of wedding transport outside The Trafalgar Tavern.

Lorna writes:

"My boyfriend has just (finally!) proposed, and we want to get married in Greenwich and have our reception in Greenwich too.

I've read through all the information on your site (and all sites online it seems!) about weddings in Greenwich, and I'm still a bit blurry on what we could do to make our wedding 'extra speicial'.

So I wondered if you, or your readers had any thoughts on what their idea of a perfect Greenwich wedding would be, or if they have been to an extra special wedding in Greenwich and why it was so!

So far with our venue research (the usual - Queen's House etc) we've found that the venues are WAY too prescriptive on what you can and can't do, and you have no freedom with suppliers etc. We'd ideally like a church wedding followed by a marquee in the park, but of course, Greenwich council won't allow that - but clearly the Olympics is fine! ;o)

So, any thoughts, random ideas, advice would be gratefully received!

Our only stipulations is that it's held within walking distance from Greenwich town centre and would work for around 120 guests! Winter, summer, spring, autumn all sound great to me, and I'm having HUGE problems deciding! We don't have a budget yet - so the sky is technically the limit!

I think the key is not knowing what CAN be done in Greenwich - we only seem to know what CAN'T be done!"


The Phantom agrees that many venues seem to be extremely prescriptive - it was something that came up again and again when I was writing the Shindigs page - the dreaded "allocated wedding planner," the stipulated "approved caterers" and the vast rules and regulations. Some of them I can understand - if the venue's of great historic value, for example, but most just seem to be trying to squeeze as much cash as possible from the happy couple.

I would be terrified by the thought of an alotted wedding planner - the images that dance before my eyes cow me just to think about it. And many venues don't seem to even consider giving you a quote without forcing you to go through one of these scary people. They may dress it up as 'customer service' and 'added value' but IMHO the venues have realised it's more difficult to back out after you've had a huge quote if there's a designated human who has created a wedding plan 'just for you. It would be a tough bird indeed that would happily rack up wedding planners and play them off against each other to get the best deal.

You say that you want a church wedding. It certainly ends the agony of trying to find a civil venue for the ceremony itself, which is fraught with problems - the venues have to pay so much for a licence that they often insist on your holding the reception there too - which racks up the costs. I know you say that the sky's the limit, budget-wise, but weddings are hideously, hideously expensive and people add a couple of zeros onto costs as soon as they know something's for a wedding.

You should find basic details on churches on the Shindigs page - if you're not a churchgoer at the moment, it might be worth considering attending a few services for some churches; others are less fussy.

I confess to be rather glad that Royal Parks don't allow marquees in the park - they'd be a permanent fixture, but that does mean that marquees are out, especially if you're keen for it to be within walking distance of the town centre. The only place I can think of that regularly has marquees is The Fan Museum, and that's such a pretty garden it seems a shame to stick a whopping great tent over it.

Depending on when your wedding is planned, i.e. if it's from Spring 2010, you could see at what stage the Cutty Sark will be (notwithstanding any more accidents.) I get the feeling it's going to be a stunning venue - a quick call to the Cutty Sark Trust might see you as one of the first people to use it.

My problem is that I really did rack my brains for the Phantom Shindigs page - if there are other venues within walking distance of the town centre, I don't know about them. But maybe someone else here will.

I know that it's a really special day for you, but don't get carried away, like a friend of mine, who is getting married next year. She has been planning it since last year, and every time I see her she's worrying herself to a frazzle over some detail. That's two years of agony for one day. After all, it's two people saying they want to be together for the rest of their lives. The rest is just packaging.

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10 Comments:

Anonymous Rod said...

"It would be a tough bird indeed that would happily rack up wedding planners and play them off against each other to get the best deal."

Frankly, given the way these people do everything conceivable to get money out of you, and the amount of control freakery, I wouldn't hesitate to play them off against each other in the expectation of getting a better deal. If that makes me a cold-eyed bastard fair enough......

27 September 2008 08:55  
Blogger Benedict said...

I wonder if you could rent out The Covered Market of an evening and get one of the pubs to serve the refreshments?
I am looking at venues for an event in the new year and I must say it has become a bit of an insoluble conumdrum.
Congrats , by the way, (those boys do dither sometimes)

27 September 2008 09:31  
Blogger Rebecca said...

A number of couples who I've spoken to are having their reception in the Trafalgar Tavern and one is using The Guildford in Guildford Grove, which may work for you.

27 September 2008 10:35  
Blogger NicksPhotos said...

We had our wedding at StAlfege and then walked through the town and college with the full wedding party to the Trafalgar Tavern. We did bring our own vicar though as StAlfege is quite high church and not everyones cup of tea. The Trafalgar was quite a revelation, reasonable value and the food was much better than expected, in fact it was much better than when we went there for a tasting.
My tip of the week though would be that you can contact Trinity music college and they have a list of music students who can do performances for a reasonable fee, we had a pianist playing for a couple of hours at the beginning of our reception and it was about the cheapest thing on the day.

27 September 2008 11:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can get married in the bandstand at Greenwich Park - I saw a wedding there a few years back.

28 September 2008 20:05  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Charlton house is stretching it to walk to from Greenwich but they do let you do exactley as you please. You can use whatever supplier you want, supply your own booze without corkage, do what you want with dj and lights, etc etc. Having looked at all the options this offers the most flexibility. Have a look, it is much prettier than I imagined.

29 September 2008 13:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see the Trafalgar Rowing Centre next door to the Trafalgar Tavern is currently being refurbished, stunning view on to the Thames and I have been to a party or two there and they seem pretty relaxed / flexible about outside catering.

30 September 2008 15:29  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We got married at St Alfege and had our reception in the beautiful garden of Our Lady Star of the Sea up the hill. It was quite a sight to see everyone walking up Crumbly Hill.

06 October 2008 10:04  
Anonymous Lorna said...

Anon - how did you get to use the garden at Our Lady Star of the Sea? Particuarly if you were married at St Alfeges'?

Thanks so much - my email is lornaannefleming@gmail.com if you're able to help, as this sounds perfect!

06 October 2008 16:59  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

Cor - I'd be interested to know that one too...

06 October 2008 17:13  

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