Inspiration...
His latest creation takes place in
"various locations in Seattle and London...a large part of the second half of the play takes place in a kind of run down hotel in Greenwich...mainly because of it being on the prime meridian. That fact that its run down can be fictional, but I'm looking for something old with a lot of character and a fun name to it and to know what street(s) it is on. Can you help/think of anything? "
The Phantom replies:
Curiously enough, Dustin, for a town that has many tourists, Greenwich has very few hotels with any kind of character. Most of our hotels tend to be unexciting corporate jobs - the Ibis, for example, The Novotel or even Devonport House, which is in the grounds of the Old Royal Naval College, and yet still manages to be unexciting. There are a couple of rather nice (and quirky) B&Bs - Number 16 St Alphege's Passage, for example, round behind the church - but it's not run down.
If you want run-down, you need to cross Blackheath to the imposing-looking Clarendon Hotel. From the outside it looks glamorous indeed, surveying the heath and looking across at Greenwich Park (I'd say it was a few hundred yards from the meridian.) A series of of 18th Century buildings, I'd guess, with the name picked out in big red letters, lushly glowing across the heath at night. A glass canopy gives a dry walk from the gravel car park to the door. It all says 'posh.' Inside, it's a different story. I calculate it was last decorated some time around the early 1980s, and, in hotel terms, unless you're going for 'retro.' that's a long time ago. There are a few reception-y sort of areas upstairs, with a bar, and downstairs some more not-terribly exciting bars with furniture that's a bit too big for the size of the rooms. None of it's truly nasty - it's just tired. I can't remember whether it has two or three stars, but I'd guess two.
This place could be a palace - and with a view and a building like that, should be one of the classiest hotels in London. Instead, its main business seems to be from discount coach tours and cheap package deals (doubles start at £100, which for London ain't bad) and on that kind of custom refurbishing doens't look like it's going to be on the cards for some time.
By-the-by and slightly off-topic, I noticed that at Reception they were advertising for sale all three of Neil Rhind's books on Blackheath, including the out-of-print second volume of Blackheath Village and Environs. Now, knowing that the hotel isn't famous for its up-to-dateness, it could be an old sign - but it might be worth a try - especially if you live in the Westcombe Park area and are interested in its history.
You know, Dustin? I reckon your best bet would be to invent the run-down hotel of your dreams. Possibly around the West Greenwich area - Nevada St, Royal Hill, Crooms Hill (an ancient road) though if you really want somewhere on the meridian, you should think about creating a place on Park Vista (I THINK that it crosses it) Trafalgar Road or close to the power station. In fact - here's an idea. Why not make the Cutty Sark pub an inn too - it may well have been at one point. It's on Ballast Quay, it's 18th century, it's a few yards from the meridian, VERY pretty and it's lapped by the Thames. If you sit outside of an evening you can sip your pint, looking out at the laser that follows the meridian line.
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Just a wee bit west of the meridian is as the Phantom suggests on Nevada St the Spread Eagle a former coaching inn and until recently was higgledy piggledy wonky and slightly dust forlorn.A good spot with a lot of history.Or you could travel into the future when Trident Hall has been converted into an Hotel next to the Trafalger Tavern (also a possibility?)
Sounds like an interesting project, good luck with it.
Point House at the top of Point Hill and Westgrove Lane used to be a hotel. Its a lovely Georgian building with views over London from the back. Just along from there is the Hamilton which was also a hotel until recently.....
Greenwich Bar and Grill used to be called The Gloucester Hotel and is perfectly placed right next to St Marys Gate on King William Walk.
If you want to see what the buidling looked like pre 'Inc', check out the film 'Beautiful Thing' where you'll also see scenes incorporating The Phantoms choice - The Cutty Sark.
The meridian does indeed cross Park Vista, more or less at the junction of Feathers Place. There's a brass line embedded in the road that indicates where it runs - check it out one day, it's one of those wonderful little unnoticed gems of Greenwich.
So - although it would be about 15 metres off the meridian - The Feathers - a pub on Park Vista just down from Feathers Place - could easily become your fictional run-down olde inne. The interior decor, and the clientele, are quintessential British pub.
...and of course The Phantom has written up The Feathers - or, The Plume of Feathers, to give it it's full and proper title, here.
The Phantom's review should give you a good feel for the place if you don't have the good fortune to be able to visit, Dustin.
Aw, gee - thanks, Franklin...
There are two pubs that I've noticed offering accomodation. The King's Arms opposite Cafe Rouge and the King William on Trafalgar Rd. The later definately fits into the "run down" category and is almost on the meridian
"Kings Arms"? isnt that the Mitre Alaister? Or maybe the Rose and Crown?
I'm lost or in the wrong town!
Not at all Phantom, it's an eloquent review. But - having re-read it - I have to disagree that the meridian actually crosses through the pub itself. It might just nick the corner of the beer garden tho'...
And I think Alastair must be referring to the Mitre, as I don't think the Rose & Crown offers accommodation - although of course I have been known to be wrong on occasion... ;-)
OMG - of course - the William IV. The weird thing is that on a quick glance it looks pretty good - a classic old boozer with interesting Victorian features and palm trees sticking above the opaque windows - and yet it's a dive beyond comprehension. If you look at the upstairs windows you can see the bunk beds all crammed in together. Yup - that's your baby, Dustin...
Franklin
You are not wrong. The Rose and Crown does not offer accommodation.
Cheers
...but if it did...
....oooeerrr missus.....young man, at my age......
Thank you all so much, you've given me much food for thought. The theatre producing the play is doing a reading this month and then it will go up in Spring of next year. I will be no doubt writing about my progress on it on my blog:
http://fragmentsofatotality.blogspot.com/
Thank you Phantom and friends!
Dustin
Yes, I did mean the Mitre. I'll try to make sensible comments next time.
Hey, cool! How did our Yank playwright put that picture (of himself, presumably) into his comment? I believe they are called 'avatars' by The Blogging Community. I want one! But I have no idea how to put one in! (I only just worked out italics).
Can anyone advise?? Phantom Webmaster, perhaps?
In your settings, under comments it asks if you want your profile image to be used when making comments. I actually didn't have any idea I had it marked as "yes".
Thanks Dustin! Good luck with the new play - and take my word for it, The Feathers is your ideal gaff (that's English for 'place to get pissed').
I think the King Willy wins in the run down stakes though.BBB £17 a night (Bunk Bed and Breakfast)
Sorry, this is super indulgent, but I just want to see whether I can get my avatar to work...
What about that freaky looking 'Greenwich Hotel' near the Wolwich Road flyover?
http://www.thegreenwichphantom.co.uk/2008/03/pugh-pugh-barney-mcgrew.html
I guess it's a dull name and it's nowhere near the meridien, but it looks like somewhere disturbing things happen.
I know what you mean Bentos. I walked past one night and felt myself being watched by a strange hooded character in the shadows. I'm sure it was some guy having a fag, but somehow I did expect the eyes to suddenly glow red...
Lovely Avatar, Franklin
Thanks Phantom! I feel so technogizmologically advanced now. (However, the whole avatar thing might get old very quickly...let's see)
I've never been inside, but I always imagined the Greenwich Hotel to be Barton Fink-esque, peeling plaster and 30year-old flypaper littering dank, cocaine-sprinkled rooms with no locks on the doors.
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