A Good Place to Re-locate?
I currently reside in the U.S. My family will relocate to the UK in the summer and have found GMV as one of our options. I have two small children 3 and 5 years of age. Since my husband will be working in central London, this seemed like an option since school, transportation, and shopping is within walking distance? Would we need a car?
After calling the school in Millennium I was told that there may not be space for my children for the September term. Is there any other areas in Greenwich you could recommend that is near some good primary and nursery care? And besides that would you say it would be a good place to raise small children? Any comments or recommendations regarding my questions or perhaps even other areas that may work for my family would be much appreciated.
The Phantom replies:
Welcome (perhaps) to Greenwich!
Would you need a car. Hmm. I'd say probably not. GMV is stuck out on a limb a bit, but it's on many bus routes and about a ten minute walk to North Greenwich Tube Jubilee Line. It's about a ten minute walk to the nearest supermarket too (there are two within easy walking distance from GMV - at one there's an electrical store and a big DIY shed as well as Sainsburys; over at the ASDA (another supermarket) there's a TK Max, Boots the Chemist, some clothing stores, an HMV, Office World. pet superstore and a stationers.)
You'd have a pretty sad life if you just stuck to those places though - they're not all that nice, just useful. There are buses to Blackheath (a lovely little village, with a Farmers Market on a Sunday and lots of nice eateries, and to Greenwich which - well - you know all about Greenwich, I'm sure. If not, a trawl through this blog should help there...
I heard there's a car sharing scheme on the peninusla but I don't know anything about it.
The best primary school in the area is Halstow Road School, or so my next door neighbour tells me (people with young families may disagree with me there, of course.) I'm sure I read somewhere that it's in the top 100 in Britain, I believe, but even if I have that wrong, competition is fierce. Some people move into the catchment area just to get their children into the school. It's about a ten-fifteen minute walk from GMV, but check to see if you would 'count' if you lived there. Houses in the Halstow Road catchment area are a bit more expensive than GMV, but they tend to have gardens and more space. Obviously that area is FULL of young families.
There is a Steiner School in Westcombe Park, just up the hill from East Greenwich (Westcombe Park or Maze Hill railway stations) and I've heard good things about the General Wolfe School in West Greenwich, (loads of stations, LR and buses) though the housing stock tends to be much more expensive (and very dinky indeed...) You will find a lot of young families there too.
Families are growing in GMV, but because the housing units tend to be smaller, there is less room for spreading out. It's reasonably safe though, and the eco park, views of the river and comparitively large amounts of green open spaces mean there's somewhere to play.
Is it a good area to bring up children? I'll have to open that one up to the floor!
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The car sharing scheme I believe is streetcar:
www.streetcar.co.uk
Quite a number of locations in Greenwich but not at GMV yet I believe.
i'm an american living in GMV myself, and it's a good area for kids--you've got the ecology park and big green space right there, the shops are nearby, the restaurants are nearby in the O2 (as well as a family-friendly pub on the way to the O2), and there are loads of young children there. if you're used to using public transit wherever you are in the States now, then you should do well with the buses and Jubilee line. But if you're used to the freedom of a car, and plan on driving out of London a lot, you might want to either get a car or a share car (we use Streetcar, which isn't on the peninsula, but I'm sure some other company must have one nearby.) If you'd only drive around London, I don't recommend that at all. I'm a New Yorker, and New York traffic isn't anywhere near as bad as London.
I dont know GMV (it took me a while to figure out what you were all talking about) but certainly west Greenwich is very child freindly, my neighbourhood close to James Wolfe(the victor of Quebec)school is positivly awash with young'uns, and a very good community spirit. Transport fantastic, 9 mins to London Bridge or Canary Wharf but anywhere round Greenwich has alot of merits. Good luck with your move.
Annandale Road is in the catchment for Halstow Road (5 mins)and there is a "streetcar" service at one end of the street. There are usually a few houses to rent but no idea if that gives you automatic access to the school which does appear to be really popular. There is a good private primary school in Blackheath village I believe and that still gives good access to Canary Wharf which is where I assume you are going to be working. If you can get your child into the Milennium school I would recommend both it and the GMV area but if not, then you will probably end up driving your child to school and the area can get quite gridlocked.I would recommend renting elsewhere if you need to use a different primary. Good luck.
(GP - I've already left a comment but it's not been posted. Are you screening? Or is there a problem again do you think?)
I'm a big fan of the Maze Hill area. My son goes to Meridian School which is fantastic with a great headteacher who's been there for years and is very committed. There's also a superb nursery - Robert Owen Early Years Centre. It's one of the best in London. Have a look at the Ofsted report... You're also very close to Greenwich Park without the rents of West Greenwich.
Sorry Kratch - I have no idea why your comment didn't show - I certainly didn't delete it. Things have to be pretty wild to get deleted by me...
It was probably me. I probably pressed delete or something...
I'm surprised that Millennium school said they may have no spaces. This year they took kids from quite a wide area. I've just looked as a prospective parent at three of the local primaries in East Greenwich and would be happy with any of them -Halstow, Millennium and Meridian. Robert Owen Nursery I know from experience is great for your three old, but I don't know if GMV is close enough. You really do have to live on Halstow's doorstep to get a space, and please be wary of estate agents talking about catchment areas - they change every year as they depend on the number of siblings in a year, special educational needs, and only then address proximity.
Greenwich is a great place for little kids with good schools - I only wish I could say the same for secondary education!
Kate P
I live in GMV and am looking into nurseries. I am expecting my first one and am doing some advance research on nurseries/day care, once I go back to work.
At the moment I am struggling to put together a list to shortlist the places I would like to visit.
I've been searching the web, but there is not so much information or websites of the places.
Any suggestions would be welcome !
Wow thanks everyone. I am heading out to London tomorrow and arriving on March 6. I'm very excited to experience Greenwich and the surrounding areas. I'll check back with my impressions and possibly more questions in a week. Wish me luck!
- Julia
Streetcar should be arriving at GMV within the next couple of weeks...
So we were able to visit Greenwich amongst many other areas in London and I have to say I simply fell in love with Greenwich. We were able to walk around the Cutty Sark tube area and walked through town over to GMV. Both places are feasible, I'm just worried about the schooling situation. Although, after doing the timing of the transport, Cutty Sark stop came out the least favorable at 55 mins. to where my husband will work, and possibly myself. Unfortunately that was my favorite area.
GMV had more decent school options with the school that is there and if I could not get my 3 and 5 year old in, there was the Robert Ownes and the church schools that are near by.
Then we happened upon the Surrey Quays area. It seems the most convenient,although I am unsure again about the school situation, but my heart wasn't in it.
I did not get a moment to see west Greenwich. Any suggestions?
In general we are looking for a low maintenance modern letting 2-3 bedroom, that is near transportation and decent schools.Thanks everyone, Julia
Glad you like it, Julia - though I can hardly say I'm surprised. Interestingly West Greenwich is the prettiest bit in many ways, so if you liked the rest...
I guess it all depends on how much you're willing to pay, when it comes to housing. There are a lot of modern places around- most obviously on the Peninsula, but none of it's cheap. I wuld suggest you have a look on the websites of John Payne - the only remaining local estate agent, and King Sturge who have (gnash, gnash) just taken over from the other local estate agent, James Johnston. With the caveat, of course, that no estate agents are my friends, but that I always prefer local when choosing the least worst (even if King Sturge is now multinational - I'm assuming that the James Johnston staff may still be around).
http://www.johnpayne.com/
http://www.kingsturge.co.uk/residential/
Thanks for the tips. Yes, we caught site of the King Sturge Letting agent right off the Cutty Sark Line. We were fortunate to see a few places over at the Millenium Quays, but it is my understanding that they are actually in Deptford. Also, I wasn't too keen on the idea of being near a power grid. My largest concern is the kids of course. With a 3 and a 5 yr.old, and the need for all day care, it seems to limit my choices, considerably. Cost? I would say moderate. Roughly we are downsizing to a 2 bedroom (all we can afford), but want to live comfortably in a low maintence sort of way. I know it will be a challenge since we will be moving from a 3,400 sq.ft. home ^_^. It's a learning experience going back to basics.
To be honest, uhnless you're in the deepest countryside you're always going to be near a didgy thing - power grid/duff area/phone mast/whatever in London. Personally I don't believe you're in any danger whatsoever there. And Deptford has a lot going for it. I have friends in Millennium Quays and they love it - it's still within easy walking distance of Greenwich Town centre (and if we're getting historical it actually WAS Greenwich Town centre a couple of hundred years ago - what's the centre now was known as "East Greenwich" - it's all shifted over.)
Keep the faith!
anon
we live off maze hill and my 2 yr old goes to robert owen - it is a great nursery and we are really happy with it - long waiting lists and quite strict criteria on area. Cheap too compared to the private nurseries as it is a sure start nursery subsidised by the government. Halstow is definitely the best primary but v difficult to get into unless you live on the doorstep (0.2 miles) All decent property expensive to rent from modern flats to period houses. Central greenwich v pretty and james wolfe also not too bad. Meridian (my local catchment area school is not bad but ofsted reports not particularly good and sandwiched between power station, council estate and the main trafalgar road (one of the most polluted roads in london!). We will move to rent near halstow or james wolfe. Personally do not like GMV - very 'cut off' for now and a trek through very busy traffic to some of the nicer parts of greenwich - not nice with two kids. O2 restaurants all chain bars and pretty soulless (in my opinion). I have lived in many parts of london all of my life but feel really at home in greenwich and agree with phantom that it's a gem.
I have a question concerning housing in Greenwich and I'm not sure if it's best to ask here or email it.. so I guess I'll just ask here.
I'm thinking of applying for a job transfer to London, but before I do so I wanted to get an idea of how much things cost, what area would be good to live, and so on. I'm a single 28 year old female and I want to live somewhere safe... from what I've read it seems that Greenwich is a nice area and that for south London it's fairly nice. I know it's difficult to generalize and say that all of Greenwich is entirely safe, but I guess I just wanted to ask about your thoughts on this.
Also I was looking for single bedroom around 700-800 and I wasn't sure if that was realistic. I don't particularly need anything fancy, I'm more concerned with safety. I don't expect to be out late, but when the sun starts to go down early in the winter I want to be comfortable walking home in the dark at 8 or 9pm.
I visited London several years ago during the Elizabeth exhibition and I liked Greenwich area... the area by the Cutty Sark seemed to have a nice small town feel, and I liked that.
Thanks for any help/advice you could give and thanks for this blog too!
Just wanted to add that we have found Meridian school is a wonderful, warm and stimulating place for a primary school. The power station referred to is on about once a year (as a back up to the tube power supply) and what an amazing back drop other than that! The meridian line goes above my daughters school, they have a royal park as a backdrop and the Thames for walks. I cannot think of a more interesting setting, nor a more charming and happy school. The childrens behaviour is fantastic. Watch the latest ofsted report, I am sure it will show the true colours of a school acheiving outstanidng results with a wide range of backgrounds and abilities - surely that is the true test of an educator.
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