Ghost of Greenwich Christmas Past Part Four
You know, of all the periods of Greenwich's past, comparatively modern times are the most difficult to pin down. I can find stuff out about Henry VIII with virtually no bother, but try winkling out anything at all about how ordinary people celebrated during, say, Edwardian times or the Blitz, and all you meet is a blank. Twenty years are a virtually empty book. At some point, I'll trek all the way up to Colindale and trawl through crusty, yellowed copies Ye Olde News Shoppere c.1830, but for now, we'll just have to content ourselves with snippets...
Once the King had left Greenwich for palaces west of here, the town started to become more industrialised. Now servicing Greenwich Hospital and The Observatory rather than the court, the town became more commercial too - as well as doing what it had always done - fishing.
I can't find much out yet about how the pensioners celebrated Christmas (try googling "pensioner," "Greenwich" and "Christmas" and you'll see what I mean) so More Research Needs To Be Done. But for now, I'm assuming they got an extra tot of rum (the authorities reckoned that since these old sea dogs had lived on rum for their whole lives it would be unfair not to let them continue to live a sozzled life on land) and I did find reference, from John Evelyn's diary 1705, to Christmas carol songsheets in pensioner's cabins. Images of hearty sing-songs, possibly not with all the original words, gladden my heart.
There's a slightly sickly picture from a 1905 Pears Annual to be seen here, which depicts a Greenwich Pensioner saluting a bust of Lord Nelson - somewhat fancifully, since they were disbanded in 1865 - and presented with the same gooey sentiment that brought us Bubbles. Rather oddly, the accompanying description doesn't seem to fit the picture at all, telling us the pensioner is in front of Nelson's funeral barge and only has one leg. There are two legs. Count 'em, Jim. Two.
After the pensioners got booted out, the place became a royal naval school. Again, not much on Christmas, but I did find this, from the Illustrated London News 1848:
Great attention is paid to the dietary, which consists of cocoa and bread for breakfast; for dinner, meat and pudding on alternate days, with beer and potatoes; and bread and milk for supper. On each of the four annual festivals, and on Christmas Day, the Boys have roast beef and plum pudding.

One more snippet of Christmas trivia before I have to draw a veil over my research capabilities. On Christmas Day, 1886, at a meeting in the Royal Oak pub next door to Woolwich Arsenal station, it was decided to change the name of the Dial Square Football Club to Royal Arsenal.
But of the 20th century, so far, I have nothing. If any of you older folk out there have any fab Christmas memories to share, I would LOVE to hear them.
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I think they knocked down the Royal Oak a month or so ago, so that, the Manor Ground and all that made up Arsenal's infant days has gone. So when Spurs chant '**** off back to South London' - I guess there'd be nowhere to go.
If you want some AFC trivia - like a small piece of football terrace steps that are still in a back garden in Woolwich - I'm the person...
Oooh - yes. Do tell.
OK, try not to bore people but I guess if they’re reading this they must be slightly interested. I’ll keep it to the ‘local’ part of the club’s history too.
(The terracing is actually in a back garden in Plumstead, sorry.)
Loads of people from the North/Scotland bundled down south to find work in the 1880s and some ended up at the Woolwich Arsenal which I guess was a bit more important then than it is now! A bloke called David Danskin – a Scot -bought a football after a whip-round with his work chums. A team was formed – Dial Square – and their first match was mid-December 1886. As you said TGP, on Chistmas Day they all hooked up at the Royal Oak pub, probably got rat-arsed and named the team Royal Arsenal. As some of the team had already played for Nottingham Forest and still had their tops, they chose red and Forest even supplied a set of tops for the whole team – bless.
Arsenal have never actually played in Woolwich! First ‘ground’ they played as Royal Arsenal was Plumstead Common, then they moved to a site of old pig farm – the Sportsman Ground – on Plumstead Marshes, then onto Manor Field (later to be known as the Manor Ground) near the station. (They briefly went to the Invicta ground but came back to stay put for 20 years or so). The facilities was originally two-bob and the players changed in the Green Man pub on the high street or the Railway Tavern! (Are they still there?)
I guess you by now will have worked out the reason why the team are called the Gunners.
The club started to become pretty popular with locals – including the workers at the munitions factory - and non-locals. The club made money and improved the ground – although in the early part of the 20th century they did have bad money problems. This was one of the reasons why the club decided to move to north London.
Plumstead was hard to get to (even now if there’s a problem with the line, you’re stuffed basically) and the club needed to make sure there was lots of local support, good transport links and so on. Land belonging to St John’s College of Divinity, in Highbury, was found. The owners got chucked 20 grand for a 21-year lease and rest, as they say, is history.
Of course many ‘Woolwich’ people got the hump and I guess they had a point. Even as a Gooner it is odd that a club upped-sticks to go so far from their birthplace. But the club may not have survived otherwise. And there are two main reasons why – by then – local Tottenham Hotspur hated us. One was obviously the geographical reason and the other, well that’s for another day/blog as it’s too detailed to go into on TGP’s one. And probably not for here anyway.
Oh, the ‘Woolwich’ part of the name was dropped in 1914 to become The Arsenal’.
Kind of short and sweet...!
Fantastic, SoC. I know practically nothing about Football (though I do intend to try to get to a Charlton match next year just to find out what it's like...) and your potted history is spot on. Thanks. I love it.
I've been looking for the site of the old Sportsman Ground on maps of Greenwich, but I can't find anything that places an old pig farm anywhere near Manor Ground or Plumstead Common. I think it's under HMP Belmarsh now; does anyone know if that's true?
Darth - I'll post this up as an Ask The Phantom - I suspect more people will see it that way
Many thanks, TGP.
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