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Wednesday, 8 August 2007

Casualty at QEH

Perhaps 3.00am on a Saturday morning is not a particularly fair time to review an A&E department at a local hospital, but it's certainly going to mean you'll see it warts & all - and besides, you don't generally get to choose when you review Casualty as a client.

Don't even ask what I was doing there at that time of the day. Suffice to say I would hazard a guess that I was the only person there that wasn't either drunk, a drug addict or completely loony, and that that is not an atmosphere I would have chosen voluntarily. It was clearly not an atmosphere that the staff would have chosen either - and given the circumstances they handled it reasonably well - with the kind of stoicism normally reserved for saints and long-term soap characters.

Allow me to paint a picture for you (I am assuming you're all healthy sorts who have never crossed those less-than-hallowed portals.) You've parked the car (free, overnight - they graciously assume that at that time you're not a commuter who wants to park at the hospital and schlep the couple of miles to the local railway station every day) and you stagger through the doors clutching Little Johnny with a saucepan stuck on his head.

You'd normally have to take a numbered ticket but at night there are 'so few' people that you can just give your name to the receptionist. She's bored and cross at the same time - but you have to admit she's civil.

Your next challenge is to find somewhere to sit. There are plenty of seats, all joined together in rows, but it's still not easy to find somewhere that you'd actually want to sit. In one row there's a couple of hollow-eyed characters in knock-off designer sportswear that has never seen a gym. They glare at you, challenging you to come anywhere near, but the debris of - you're not quite sure what - has already made sure you're not going to disturb them.

Across the way, a bloke in his early twenties is wearing what, at 8.00 the previous evening, were probably his best clothes. His shirt still has the odd knife-edge crease and his gold jewellery still peeks out from under his collar. But his foot is smashed to pieces and covered in blood, as is his head. The whole of the front of his designer jeans and his special skinny-line shirt is caked in drying vomit. He's muttering to himself, and you're not sure it's all brought up yet...

You guide Little Johnny and his saucepan across the litter-strewn floor to try to sit next to an old woman who swears violently at you and starts screaming. You spot a place across the way, but a group of drunken teenagers carry one of their kind in between them, staggering and lurching, finally dumping her across the row and start waving and shouting at the receptionist that she needs to be seen immediately. You have already decided that the people who work here deserve some kind of medal. You've been here just a few minutes and they've been abused at least twice.

You finally settle down next to the payphone where someone decides to call Eastern Europe. It's obviously a bad line as they have to bellow, but they're clearly enjoying their chat.

You look around the place. There is an untidy display of leaflets about sexually transmitted diseases, which don't prove to be War & Peace. You attempt to decipher that the confusing chart which has various unexplained colours correlating to expected waiting times. You have not been given a colour, but you sincerely hope you are not Orange.

Your friend suggests a coffee, and you rediscover the concept of The Klix Machine - something you had previously thought had become extinct in the early 90s. A peer into the flimsy brown vessel currently warping under your fingers reveals a gooey glob of something that is very possibly but by no means certainly Non Dairy Creamer. You don't even want to go there.

About half an hour later, your wait is over. You are seen by a nurse who writes everything you told the receptionist half an hour earlier down, and tells you to go outside and wait.

A woman starts making a fuss to the receptionist that she isn't being taken seriously enough and she's having to wait. The receptionist is polite but firm and you are intrigued. What's going on here? Is this a regular, perhaps?

Your attention is drawn by another woman who was brought in in a wheelchair looking extremely pathetic. She had been coughing her guts up onto the floor until a cardboard dish was provided but had then slumped back into her chair. But she has suddenly noticed that everyone's busy, and she nips out of the wheelchair and into the loo, returning before she's seen.

An ambulance crew bring someone in and, by earwigging, you find out what's happened to the woman who's 'not being taken seriously.' The crew are furious. She called 999 with a headache, and when they suggested some Neurofen, made a huge fuss and insisted on being taken into hospital in the ambulance. In the meanwhile a man who had a heart attack had been forced to wait for 9 extra minutes.

Three and a half hours later you and Little Johnny are called in for tests. You apologise to the nurse that Johnny's clothes are still what he was wearing earlier that night; she's just grateful he's not covered in vomit. You get sent outside again to wait.

At 6.00am you go out to buy a parking ticket. It is officially morning.

An hour later, Little Johnny finally gets seen by a doctor. Clearly a junior doc, and clearly run off her feet, but politer and friendlier than you would have previously considered humanly possible under the circumstances.

You are finally out, five hours after you arrived. Equal amounts of WD40 and brute force have liberated Little Johnny from his saucepan, the sun is shining and a new staff has clocked on. The cleaners have arrived. You have never been so glad to get out of somewhere and find yourself humming "Oh, What a beautiful Mornin'..."

None of this is the fault of the hospital, as far as I can see. A & E seems to attract some real characters and it's up to these people to deal with them, day in, day out. The waiting room is covered in litter and all kinds of nasty stuff, but the cleaning staff can't be there all day. I don't know what you can do about the drunken chav element that make an experience like this as bad as it is. But those waiting times are scary. Short of extra funds I don't know what QEH could have done better under the circumstances.

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19 Comments:

Blogger Kicki said...

I had my baby at QEH a couple of months ago, and I'm only just recovering from the trauma.

The midwives are so over worked that they give minimal care - such as, when asked by pediatrician to help us with breast feeding and formula, she handed us a sheet of paper and told us to put down every time we fed the baby.

Result: baby stopped breast feeding after two days and never got back to it.

There's also the case of my notes up on an unguarded, unlocked computer screen in the corridor of the ward, with no staff to be seen. We were tempted to print out the notes and deliver them to ward manager's office.

etc. etc.

Giving birth at QEH was without competition the worst experience in my life.

08 August 2007 10:58  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

I have (thankfully) never been an in-patient at QEH (or anywhere, actually) but I would have said that what A&E suffered from was lack of manpower - and that means cash. That they took five hours to see so very few people must mean it was the same poor doctor seeing everyone. V. Bad.

08 August 2007 11:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My child was born at QEH and the midwife I had followed my birthplan to the letter; absolutely brilliant. Alas after 20 hours labouring she went off-shift, and was replaced by atila the hun who didn't believe in water births, accupuncture or anything remotely holistic. She decided I needed a c-section, and proceeded to have me moved to another room. The walk a mere 10 feet resulted in my son almost being born on the floor.If not for the intervention of my dear partner who caught the baby. no-one mopped the floor until the following morning. Again partner used a hospital sheet to hide the offending spillage. I refused to stay another night and was discharged! NEVER AGAIN

My near neighbour's elderly mother was admitted to QEH after contracting pneumonia - she recovered only to pick up the MRSA bug and sadly passed away.

My advice go to Lewisham Hospital - a much better facility and I believe it has a 24 hour children dedicated A&E

08 August 2007 11:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not sure that its a lack of cash that is the cause of the problems more that the cash is allocated to other areas. I have only ever been to A&E once (fortunately) and wasnt about to drop dead so I passed on the projected 9 hour queue and went to a private medi centre instead. The queue did seem to consist of whole families there for some sort of day trip!

08 August 2007 11:37  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

But what gets me is WHICH other areas is the cash being diverted to? It's clearly not maternity or A&E.

08 August 2007 11:45  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe diverted to other areas is the wrong term. The problem is that the NHS is free at the point of use. Microeconomics 101 puts demand at infinity! Demand will basically always outstrip supply. Without sounding like a Telegraph reader I would charge people a small fee after a certain number of visits to A&E/GPs etc.

08 August 2007 12:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LoL, you want to try Lewisham. If hell exists i imagine it to be pretty much the same as the A&E on saturday night. I got a feeling of such utter dispair that i have only ever felt visiting the killing fields in Cambodia. As you say how the staff cope is beyond me...

08 August 2007 13:27  
Blogger Inspector Sands said...

I had to go to casualty at QEH three years ago - it's horrible. At least with GDH you could go home for a bit if faced with a 4-hour wait.

If a politician starts trying to tell you what they've done for the NHS in this area over the past few years - do him a favour. Punch him in the bracket so bloody hard, he has to experience the bloody thing himself.

08 August 2007 13:33  
Blogger Bentos said...

Try turning up in A+E on a Saturday, late afternoon, early evening, with a dislocated shoulder in a muddy rugby kit.

08 August 2007 13:44  
Anonymous lula said...

It's not just QEH or Lewisham! As a regular visitor to numerous London hospitals they are ALL terrible! I'm confused as to what happened to the lovely nurses and great service I used to get, now I get hostile receptionists, nurses who can't understand english and Doctors who are too busy doing private clinics to fit me in!

I've been waiting 9 months for an appointment on the NHS... and that's with me being pro-active and calling them nearly every week, so what happens to the elderly and less pro-active of us I don't know...

08 August 2007 14:03  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

frankly, if you didn't have to wait with a dislocated shoulder from playing rugby, i would be appalled.

haven't these doctors got enough to do without people deliberately injuring themselves and then turning up at A+E?

what else do you expect if you smash into people for fun?

imagine if your child was sick and the doctor was busy treating a rugby injury?


Phantom, whatever the cause of your visit to A+E -- hope you're doing well now.

08 August 2007 14:11  
Anonymous Gwladys Street said...

I've made three visits to QEH in the last year- once for myself- a running injury involving an ornamental fence and requiring stitches, once with somebody else with a sprained ankle and then of course there was the person I inadvertently poisoned (don't ask, I'm saving that one for the book- but it all turned out OK in the end).

On each of these occasions the staff were professional, efficient and very helpful, especially when they ascertain that you are patient, polite and value their valuable time. The triage system works well- especially when somebody has been poisoned!

I really dislike the system of charging for the car park- which seems to be very mean (I did not know that it was free at night and I can appreciate that there needs to be some means of discouraging selfish, stupid idiots from using it as a car park for non-hospital purposes).

High marks for the staff and recognition that the other punters will almost certainly be the sort that you would want to spend a great deal of time with.

It is disappointing to read that some contributors feel that those with sporting injuries do not deserve prompt and non-judgemental treatment. If we want to go down the road of castigating those with self-inflicted health needs how about those who smoke, drive or get pregnant (OK, I overstate my case- but please lay off those engaging in pursuits that involve healthy physicality and for me, that includes rugby and martial arts).

08 August 2007 14:48  
Anonymous Kratch said...

Gosh - this one's got us going! Well done, Phantom...

I have a friend who ended up in A&E at the QEH and had brilliant treatment. It was a 4 hour wait, but she was treated very well. She had to go back for physio the following day and that was straightforward too. Also, another friend had a baby in the maternity unit recently and had a great experience. It's always down to the luck of the draw, I suppose. (Don't get me started though on the maternity unit at Homerton hospital...we mothers gathered round the cereal the following morning with horror stories galore. I will never go back there and still have nightmares about it all. Whipps Cross was a much better scenario...).

08 August 2007 18:17  
Anonymous Greenwich Mutiny said...

Blimey Phantom, what a kerfuffle :-)

I took my son there when he was about 6 months old and again when he was a bit old to see a paediatrician. Both experiences were fine.

Antenatal visit was hideous as was a run-in with an awful midwife whilst in labour.

08 August 2007 19:30  
Anonymous Andrekabu said...

I thought I broke my finger last week. I annoyed my family no end by refusing to go to A&E. I am so glad I skipped it. It would have been an absolute nightmare with two small children to manage all to be told to splint it and take it easy. I did that all on my lonesome without the nightmare. I have American friends who stop by their local ER a few times a year for fevers and coughs. It will probably take severed limbs to get me out there.

08 August 2007 22:34  
Anonymous P&D said...

I had to take my friend to QEH A&E a while back. She was violently ill and 'out of it'. During the course of her 'care' she was put in the A&E ward overnight and when I visited the next morning i noticed that her arm was poking out at an odd angle. She was still pretty whacked on drugs so i gently touched the arm to say hi and she almost flew out of bed and screamed like a banshee. Somehow, during the course of the night she had dislocated her arm and not a sole had either noticed or seemed to care. Let me reiterate that she had no broken bones or dislocations upon entering the hospital as she was there for an entirely septerate medical condition.

To say that the nurses were uninterested is mild understatement and when they did finally acknowledge that there might be something wrong with her arm they added insult to injury. Let me explain. Her right arm was extended like a scarecrows at a 45 degree angle from her body and therefore sticking over the edge of the bed. So, when a porter finally arrives to take her to x-ray he carefully wheels her down the corridor banging her extended arm on any door frame or piece of apparatus left hanging about. The result was surgery to repair the dislocation and for the past 2 years she has been on disability as she can no longer properly use the arm. NO KIDDING.

I have left instructions with my partner to never, ever allow me to be treated at QEH.

A shame really as I was treated there when it was the military hospital and you could not have wanted for better care.

09 August 2007 09:11  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

That is a truly frightening story, P&D. Did your friend sue?

09 August 2007 09:14  
Blogger Bentos said...

Well, you gotta laugh anonymous. I got knocked out playing rugby once and had the air ambulance and everything. I understand 400 people died because I was selfishly tying up that resource;P

I get that kids with a little cut on their finger get to go first, though how they could possibly get hurt when they're wrapped head to toe in cotton wool is beyond me.

14 August 2007 10:08  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was sent to A&E with chest pains. No-one spoke to me (the receptionist apart) for 3 hours. It wasn't a heart problem, but what if it had been? It was filthy, including inside the A&E medical area. There were discarded ECG strips and tissues all over the floor. I'm terrified of either myself or OH needing hospital treatment. Isn't QEH now officially irredeemable broke, even according to the govt?
Is Lewisham hospital better (not on Sat nights perhaps, but otherwise) as also believe St Mary's in Sidcup is another disaster. There really is no excuse for such a dismal NHS!

23 January 2008 17:40  

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