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Monday, 4 June 2007

Bombay Bicycle Club

Greenwich Kitchen, Trafalgar Road SE10

I don't recall a more fiercely anticipated arrival of any kind of takeaway anytime or anywhere than that of the Bombay Bicycle Club. When the old fish and chip shop closed it stayed shut for sometime. I recall writing a blog about the number of dead shops down Trafalgar and Woolwich roads - in the 30s, I vaguely recall. That has been alleviated to some extent (though there's still plenty of room for anyone contemplating any of the shops on our wish list - see 'streets' - don't hold back now...) and not least by the presence of several decent shops - Theatre of Wine, The Fishmonger Ltd - and now the Bombay Bicycle Club.

The BBC is a chain - the same chain as the new Gourmet Burger Kitchen, I'm told - a bird that makes its nests in swanky London urban suburbs - Holland Park, Hampstead, Clapham - you get the picture. The very fact that it has decided to come to Trafalgar Road must say something good for us - that they consider it an area worth investing in. Money talks and they wouldn't come here if they didn't think the area could stand it - with a bit of luck others will come (preferably individuals, but good SMALL chains will be fine in the short term) and the so-so takeaway jungle we already have there will be forced to pull its socks up.

The place itself is ok - not as pretty as some of its branches, but still smart and fresh. It's modern with a post-ironic touch - flock wallpaper and chandeliers making little statements about the traditional concept of the Indian restaurant. We tried to order a couple of days after the leaflet came through the door, but it took until the weekend before they actually opened.

We decided to enjoy our first order with friends. We were unable to get our usual "secret control menu" because, shock, the BBC actually do their own recipes and don't completely follow the same lines as everywhere else (though of course everyone has their own interpretations of the classic anglicised meals.) We decided to order 'off-piste' and see where and what we got.

The online ordering service isn't live yet, so we called up with our choices. The guy was difficult to understand, but it was worked out quickly. They promise a free bottle of house wine with your first order if it's over £ 20 - believe me that isn't hard at their prices. They don't actually have any house wine at the moment, so they substituted a couple of bottles of beer instead.

The order arrived quickly (they'd said 45mins, it actually arrived in around half an hour) and with a smiley delivery man (always a good thing.) But we were a bit surprised by the size of the bag.

Now I don't know about you lot, but the one thing I normally noticed about Indian takeaways is that you get plenty of food for your cash. We have got into the habit of under-ordering, because the portion sizes are so huge. When we looked at the prices of the BBC, we assumed that this must be the case with them too. Everything - from the poppadoms to the specials - was more expensive than everywhere else - some things just a few pence, others well into the pounds. This isn't really a major problem if you know in advance and the quality is excellent. It just makes it a 'treat' takeaway rather than an everyday naughty staple.

Nevertheless, despite the fact that we had spent well over twice what we normally spend on an average curry, the amount in the bag just didn't look like it was going to suffice. As our company hadn't arrived, I dashed round to our local 'normal' takeaway to get supplements - rice, an extra main course, and extra poppadoms. I thought it would make a good contrast anyway.

I have to say that fresh boiled rice is fresh boiled rice. I could taste no difference between the BBC (£ 2.50) and Cafe Massala's ( £ 1.40.) Of course some takeaways, especially if they're not very busy, send old boiled rice - you can tell as soon as you open the box - but both of these were light and fluffy, and well-flavoured. We didn't get any pilau from Cafe Massala, but the BBC's version was aromatic and light. Again, when they say it's for one person, it really is.

I think that there were two BBC poppadoms, but it's impossible to say. It was literally a paper bag full of crumbs. The crumbs tasted nice - well spiced and crisp, but they were just crumbs. Cafe Massala's version won that particular battle.

The onion bhajees were good - tasty and fresh. We chose one meat, one fish and one vegetarian dish as mains. Of these, the best (in my humble opinion) was easily the cod in masala sauce - rich, flavoursome and nicely spiced. Definitely one I'd have again. Of the vegetarian dishes there were no medium-spiced options (they do it in 'penny farthings' - one bicycle is 'mild,' two, 'medium,' three, 'hot') and I felt that their Dopiaza (£ 6.45, Cafe M's - £ 3.80) was a little too mild, though also very tasty, well-made and with lots of recognisable vegetables as opposed to the brown mush you sometimes get. The meat dish, Lamb Madurai, advertised as a club favourite, (£ 7.75) was ok. nicely spiced but a little brown-mushy and slightly chewy - enjoyable but possibly not worth the money. Our aubergine side dish (£ 3.95) was rather oily and not as flavoursome as some in the past.

As I have mentioned, these dishes really are for one, so I had ordered an extra bog-standard dansak from C.M - £ 3.60. Dansaks are, of course, by their very nature, a bit on the brown-mush side, but this one was the usual medium/hot very edible standard.

My advice on this one is that the food is of very good quality. But the prices are high (we paid well over twice what we normally would and then went to get supplements from Cafe M) and the portions, when they say are for one, really are. There was very little left over from our meal - and that includes the supplementary dishes. That said, I still cannot move this morning...

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23 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

We tried it Wednesday and delivery was quick, I have a horrible cold so I couldn't taste much but the other were happy with the quality, I do wonder tho... didn't you think that the packaging looked like it had been shipped in from a large central kitchen and not cooked on site? I would have thought that it was a big enough shop to be able to actually cook in, but I really don't think so, does that matter? You're right about the size and the price, bit of a shocker and we had a hefty discount for first order.

MJ

04 June 2007 10:20  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

You got a discount? Bah!

Yes - we thought at first it had all been microwaved - and it's possible that it was. But it still tasted pretty good, even if it was reheated. But pricey, pricey, pricey.

04 June 2007 10:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

microwaved? do you think so? would they really do that? Surely the whole point is that it is cooked there, not just reheated. I've not seen the shop itself, is it big enough to have a decent kitchen?

04 June 2007 11:49  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

It SHOULD be big enough - after all it used to be a chippy. I'm sure they woudn't do such a thing. I am sure they have one of those machines which put your stuff into a plastic box and then seal it over with plastic. But it WAS our first thought when we opened the bag...

04 June 2007 11:52  
Anonymous andrekabu said...

Sounds too expensive, so I don't think we'll be bothering. Not that we eat out/order in much any more anyway, but we certainly won't be at those prices.

If we're ever tempted, I guess it'll be CM.

04 June 2007 12:06  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

I do like Cafe Massala for a not-bad Indian takeaway - friendly and reasonably consistent service. Others I know swear by the Royal Nepalese - I haven't been there for a long while, ever since a poor experience, but will be testing it again soon.

The BBC is good for the occasional blowout - but at prices like that you're beginning to get into eat-in territory. The good thing, though, is that they believe our hitherto neglected area is becoming 'nice' enough to warrent people who will pay those prices and perhaps that will encourage other good quality shops and eateries. Perhaps the sort of people who will pay over half a million for a Victorian terrace in Combedale???

04 June 2007 12:19  
Anonymous Gwladys Street said...

Sounds pricey and the small portions sound rather mean- but I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will use BBC. The menu looks interesting and I may possibly be tempted but the Mehak is nearby along Trafalgar Road and it inevitably does the trick for me.

It is an old style flock wallpaper style restaurant but the food is generally very good- at a far more reasonable price than BBC and the staff are friendly and welcoming.

04 June 2007 20:36  
Anonymous alan_b said...

Indian meal in Greenwich? Taste of India near the Cutty Sark DLR - £4.95 for an eat-as-much-as-you-like buffet at lunch time.

I've mentioned it once before here. It's beginning to sound even better after reading the BBC review.

05 June 2007 00:07  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

I haven't been to them since they've been Mehak. Aren't they the ones who were Standard Tandoori until quite recently?

05 June 2007 08:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I tried the Royal Nepalese recently with two friends and we were all mighty impressed. The service was prompt, the environment pleasant and clean, and the food tasty and filling. We were also offered a free spirit at the end of our meal. I would certainly go again.

I have also tried Corriander which is opposite the Royal Nepalese. My first experience, just shortly after it opened, involved good service and pleasant food, but with a slight bout of diarrhoea afterwards. The second experience was a non-starter as they refused me entry. The reason? I had a guide dog with me. I pointed out the error of their ways, but they would not be moved. Still, we might yet have the last laugh if my trusty hound finds herself surrendering to an unassailable urge to toilet, just as she is passing their door step ... :)

Where exactly, may I ask, is Cafe Massala? Sounds like it is worth a try.

Phil

05 June 2007 16:57  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

They wouldn't let your guide dog in? That's outrageous. Tut, tut, tut.

Cafe Massala is at number 44, Woolwich Road. To be honest I wouldn't recommend actually eating in there - they do have one or two tables but it's hardly - well - atmospheric - but I've foudn the curries to be as consistent as any around here, given that Greenwich is not a hotbed of Indian culinary excellence.

05 June 2007 17:04  
Anonymous Gwladys Street said...

You are correct- the 'Standard Tandoori' was renamed 'Mehak'- from memory about 18 months ago- following the retirement of the previous owner/manager. I think the current staff carried on following his departure in the rebadged venture- but I'm not sure if there was a change of chef.

As I implied above, Mehak is not sufficiently different to merit a long journey to eat there- but if you are in the area (and it is almost on my doorstep) it is a good, basic and reliable Tandoori.

07 June 2007 13:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had rather hoped that the shop was going to re-open as something other than a takeaway curry house, would have thought we have enough choice there already.
My particular favourites are the Royal Nepalese, which is always great food and great service, and the Millennium (behind Star Burger Express) - cheaper, but they do 'standard' curry dishes well, always friendly service, and their big screen makes it just the place to watch an evening football match during world cups/championships!

12 June 2007 08:59  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ohh! you cheapskates !

You pay for what you get..and this was one of the best takeaways i have had in years! The ingredients were of excellent quality and very fresh, with loads of punchy spices.
If you want to go to some skanky, all you can eat;sat there for days; stuff your face buffet..you go ahead! - thats not what good food is about!!

19 August 2007 23:40  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to let you all know that Mehak has not only had a recent face lift (no more plastic trees) but they have also taken on a new chef who is FANTASTIC. The food now is really good quality, and best of all the prices have stayed the same (very cheap.) Try it out! It is the only indian restaurant in Greenwich we frequent now.

17 October 2007 13:45  
Anonymous Dex said...

I think that the best place to eat Indian food locally has to be Tiffinbites at Canary Wharf. Everything is here, and the service is quite outstanding compared to Mahek, BBC, Royal Nepalese. Has anyone else tried it?

20 October 2007 10:28  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrew Mukith,
i have tried almost all the indian outlets in greenwich, i will rate my top 3 with, 1.value for money, 2.tatse, 3.deivary, 4.choice,
i will rate out of 10
10 being the best and 1 being th e worst.

1. Bombay Bicycle Club, Trafalgar road
VfM: 2/10
taste:7/10
delivary: 7/10
choice: 8/10

1 time a month

this is a good takeaway but not for the average persons wage.

2. Royal, 21 Trafalgar road
Vfm : 5/10
tatste: 5/10
delivary: 5/10
choice:4/10

2 times a week

average but could do better, not really tasty

3.Cafe massala, 44 Woolwich road
VfM: 10/10
taste: 8/10
delivery: 7/10
choice: 9/10

probably the best iv been to this side of east London, a must try, the, the chef is the owner of the business, all the staff have a friendly attitude, and always willing to help.

eat 4 times a week

31 October 2007 10:30  
Blogger The Greenwich Phantom said...

I am really glad to see we agree. The Cafe Masala is my favourite so far (I'm not counting the Bombay Bicycle Club as it's a sort of step up from the rest.) You're right - they are very friendly and so far I haven't had a bad meal there.

31 October 2007 12:33  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

peter walker,
i think cafe massala is the best Indian in Greenwich, its good value for money, food is always hot and tasty, delivery time is fast. they give you a 10% discount even on top of the cheap prices when you collect, they always give 2 popadoms and a tub of there lovely mint sauce(my wife loves it so we always order 2 extra tubs) they are the friendliest takeaway iv been too, they always provide complimentary popadoms and mint sauce when you are waiting to collect, and now they take online orders, on
hungryhouse.co.uk/cafemassala . they are just the best. i will always recommend them to anyone.

31 October 2007 15:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One you've not mentioned (probably because it's in Blackheath) is the Mountain View. It's Nepalese, the foods averagely priced, the portions are more than you'd need and taste fantastic! Highly recommended. I'm sure they'd deliver to the Trafalgar Road area. One other near me is Le Poppodom (Greenwich South Street) which is cheap and cheerful and the food's not too bad at all.

20 March 2008 18:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We've has two take aways recently from BBC (both at peak times, Friday / Saturday nights). The first was for two of us and although the quantity was right I couldn't eat mine because it was too hot. Even the sheik kebab! We used it a second time last night when we had company and have to say we were embarrassed about the meagre portions. We did ring up and they delivered more portions, free of charge. Also the starters were cold. We have to say our last two experiences of BBC were poor, particularly in view of the price. Prior to this we have has excellent experiences of BBC, is it that they are going downhill or just because we ordered at peak times? Either way we'll probably order from somewhere else.

12 July 2008 12:56  
Blogger methers said...

We returned to BBC recently, lured in by their £5 discount offer. Order online on Monday to Thursday and enter Summer Special in the promotional code box. Valid to the end of August.

17 July 2008 00:05  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have just had an absolutely appauling take away from this place (BBC) so bad i am actually prompted to let others know (i am usually a very forgiving person!!!) We ordered from their website last night and spent £30 on a tiny bag of cold, boring food which tasted worse than our local supermarket microwave meal offerings - and i agree with the other comments it all looked as if they had been freshly microwaved. It arrived late, so cold that it could only be microwaved and when we called them to complain they told us that the 'driver must have got lost' ?! They offered us two free curries next time we ordered - i don't think that will ever happen! Our 'free' popadom was so crushed it was impossible to eat without a straw. It was a shame as the reviews elsewhere seemed positive (didn't check this site though - tut tut, silly me!) so i thought i would be paying for quality rather than quantity - we received neither! There are so many good independent curry houses in our area that i will never ever be lured by a pretty pink leaflet again!

20 July 2008 17:11  

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